Where Will the Resurrected Saints Be Between the Resurrection & the Mt. of Olives?

The Day of the Lord will change everything! We want to be part of the 144,000! All in one day? Trumpets, Pentecost, or only the Father knows? These four posts are vital background for what’s below.

The Bible teaches that nobody goes to heaven when they die and nobody will live for eternity in heaven. John 3:13 could not be any plainer! And it’s from the One who would know! The saints will rule with Jesus Christ on earth (Revelation 5:10). The Bible means what it says that the meek will inherit the earth.

The Bible says the resurrected saints “shall be caught up together … in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air” (1 Thessalonians 4:17), and they will accompany Him from the clouds down to stand with Him on the Mount of Olives (Zechariah 14:4, Acts 1:11).

Will all the action occur there in the clouds?

Where will the saints be during the Seven Last Plagues and where will the Wedding Supper take place? Where will the saints be rewarded for their works? Where will they receive their assignment for the Millennium and how to accomplish it?

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Newborn babies need a few years as a toddler protected for and taught by father and mother. Will God’s born-again sons and daughters at the Resurrection need intensive instruction and training in how to be a God and manage and control all the newfound POWER? While human family has always provided good parallels with God Family, God’s children will have already learned to talk godly and walk in righteousness. And they won’t need potty trained!

Obviously, immortal spirit beings, then Gods themselves, not bound by time or space, could go anywhere God has planned, probably at the speed of thought! Resurrected God Beings will inherit “all things” [the universe!] (Revelation 21:7).

A big question is,

Where will the Father be?

The Bible is clear that nobody except Jesus Christ has ever seen God the Father or heard His voice (John 5:37) because “your sins have hidden His face from you so that He will not hear” (Isaiah 59:2). God the Father will come down to the new earth only after all physical, material, wicked humans and sin have been burned away in the Lake of Fire (Revelation 21:1-3). Most of us have been up into the clouds and even above them in airplanes. Twelve astronauts have walked on the moon. Perseverance is roving Mars and transmitting high-definition pictures of the Red Planet, along with a helicopter hovering about! The Father waits untouched in the third heaven and won’t come down to sinful territory where humans have long visited. He will make His eternal home on the New Earth (Revelation 21:3).

But can you imagine Him not wanting to officiate at His Son’s wedding! Can you imagine Him waiting 1,100 years to see His born-again sons and daughters! I was blessed to watch the birth of my last two daughters and soon hold them. Fathers who don’t have that privilege press their noses up to the nursery window to get a first look at their new child! How could God our loving Father do any less?

And who of us won’t wait any longer than necessary to hug our Abba Daddy!

All agree that the firstfruits will “follow the Lamb wherever He goes” (Revelation 14:4). “And thus we shall always be with the Lord” (1 Thessalonians 4:17). The resurrected firstfruits will be intimately one with Christ, and Christ and the Father are one (John 17:22). All we have to do is keep our eyes on Christ and follow where He goes! He is preparing a place for us, and at that time He will place us (John 14:2)!

Revelation 14:1 mentions 144,000 standing with the Lamb on Mount Zion. In so many scriptures Mount Zion in Jerusalem is where Jesus Christ will make His Kingdom home. Psalm 2:6 is a good example: “Yet I have set My King on My holy hill of Zion.” In Hebrews 12:22 Mount Zion refers to the Church of God and “the heavenly Jerusalem.” So is verse 1 referring to the resurrected saints on earth or up in heaven? John didn’t help when he used the Greek word for “heaven” [ouranos] which can refer to “sky” (the first heaven) or “abode of God” (the third heaven). We will have to look at context, which is a vital principle of proper Bible study. Too bad John didn’t do like Paul did and specify the Greek word for “third” when he wrote that he was carried up to the third heaven (2 Corinthians 12:2).

Saying “standing on the sea of glass” is not conclusive since Christ’s portable throne has one (Ezekiel 1:22). And it has four Living Creatures. But proof that the third heaven is being talked about is when a passage says the 24 Elders are there. I guess there isn’t room for them on the portable one! Another proof that the third heaven is being discussed is when it says the Temple is there.

So, John is vindicated because Chapters 11 (verse 16), 14 [verse 3] and 19 [verse 4] specify the throne where the 24 Elders are.

Chapter 15 is the key chapter showing that the resurrected firstfruits will not be confined in the clouds but will follow Jesus Christ up to be with the Father in the third heaven. Verse 2 places the resurrected saints who achieved victory over the Beast on the sea of glass along with seven angels in verse 1 having the seven last plagues in “the temple of the tabernacle of the testimony” (verse 5].

In all the critical sections regarding where the saints are after they rise up into the clouds to meet Christ in the air, the heaven is the third one where God the Father’s throne is.I

Chapter 14 is challenging in several ways. Being an inset chapter, does that mean it doesn’t have to be in chronological order? In due time Jesus will be ruling with the saints from Mt. Zion in Jerusalem. But other inset chapters seem to be in chronological order within themselves. In verse 14, the Son of Man is “on the cloud” brandishing a sharp sickle to reap the earth—clearly before riding down to Jerusalem. So it would seem more likely that in verse 1, the 144,000 are standing at the heavenly Jerusalem.

Yes, but the wording in verse 2 seems like a change of location. And does “They” in verse 3 refer to the 144,000 or to the “sound of harpists” in verse 2. Does the statement that only the 144,000 can learn that song prove it’s them actually singing before God’s throne, or does it mean that only they on earth in Jerusalem can learn what the heavenly angelic choir is singing?

Some claim the clinching argument is that verse 4 differentiates God from the Lamb, and then verse 5 positions the 144,000 “before the throne of God.” But, oh that it could be so plain: NU-Text and M.Text omit this crucial phrase and modern translations leave it out. Churches of God have always advised relying upon the King James Version and New King James Version for doctrinal matters, and these include “before the throne of God.”

That being the case, chapter 14 would substantiate what seems crystal clear in chapter 15: that the resurrected saints “who have the victory over the beast” (verse 2) are standing at the third heaven sea of glass (Revelation 4:6, 5:8, 14:2)–playing harps like the group in chapter 14. Churches of God have tended to make fun of the notion of playing harps in heaven as how could anything be more boring! But it certainly appears as if we might get a crash course in learning to play before we come down to earth with Christ to establish His Kingdom! Maybe we should stop harping about that!

This is clearly at the third heaven where seven angels are on alert to dispense the Seven Last Plagues, and they come out of the “temple of the tabernacle of the testimony.” Revelation 14:9-10 notes that the 7 Last Plagues will be dispensed in the presence of the Lamb and of the angels. The saints are protected from the dispensing of the plagues, though resurrected God Beings wouldn’t be hurt by them anyway. The saints ride with Christ down to earth as He completes the Seventh Last Plague by conquering all rebellion.

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Will the First Resurrection Be on Trumpets, Pentecost—Or Only the Father Knows?

The Day of the Lord Will Change Everything! We Want to Be Part of the 144,000! The Day of the Lord: Will All the Seventh Trumpet Events Occur On One Day?

How Long Will the Seventh Trumpet Last? All in one day? A few? Nine? Do I hear four months?

A growing number believe these big events will be spaced out between the first resurrection occurring on a Pentecost and the return to conquer being on the following Feast of Trumpets about four months later.

Proponents argue that Pentecost is a harvest feast, one of its names being Feast of Harvest, while Trumpets is not. Trumpets often blow in conjunction with war. Harvesting the saints and trampling “the great winepress of the wrath of God” (Revelation 14:19) seem like separate days’ work.

Secondly, the Wave Sheaf on the Sunday during the Days of Unleavened Bread begins the inclusive count of 50 days for how long the firstfruit harvest lasts—until the Wave Loaves are offered on Pentecost. This second elevated offering represents the end of the firstfruit harvest. So proponents ask why wouldn’t the resurrection of firstfruits take place then?

These resurrected firstfruits are the two wave loaves that were baked with leaven [sin], typifying the Church, and waved on Pentecost (Leviticus 23:17-20). Bible students have long guessed that perhaps the two loaves represent Old and New Testament, Old and New Covenant, Israelite and Gentile, male and female.   It’s interesting that the Bible is one book with one way of salvation, and “there is neither Jew nor Greek … slave nor free … male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus” (Galatians 3:28).

A newer thought is that the two loaves of leavened bread along with the two lamb quarters might have been bulky and heavy enough to require the priest to make two wavings, paralleling the resurrection of the dead followed by those alive. Perhaps Paul might have been thinking of this when he wrote that we are “raised with Christ” (Colossians 3:1).

The Scofield Study Bible III [page 183] comments, “The Feast of Firstfruits … is typical of resurrection—first, of Christ, then of those who are His at His coming (1 Corinthians 15:23; 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18).”

Thirdly, since Jesus Christ appeared for acceptance to God the Father at His throne at the very time on Sunday morning as pictured by the Wave Sheaf Offering, why wouldn’t the saints be resurrected and appear before the Father at His throne—on Pentecost when the Wave Loaves are waved? This sounds logical, but so does the common argument that since Jesus Christ was changed from God to man and then died, God might choose to change satan and the demons to physical and burn them up in the Lake of Fire; logical! But the Bible clearly sentences them to remain “wandering stars for whom is reserved the blackness of darkness forever” (Jude 13). Satan and his demons are the ones who will go to Hell like he deceived Adam and Eve and their progeny into fearing! God’s thoughts and plans are higher than our best logical deductions! (Isaiah 55:9). Human reasoning is fingered as one of the four enemies of faith [along with doubt, fear and worry].

At the least, Pentecost pictures the firstfruits from the seven Church eras [paralleling the seven weeks counting up to Pentecost] who keep the Law of God given at Mt. Sinai on Pentecost through the power of God living in them through His Holy Spirit given in Acts 2 on Pentecost, and they are trained and prepared to be accepted by the Father to become His children in the first resurrection at the return of Christ. The firstfruits are sowing a harvest—fulfilling the Great Commission Christ gave His Church to prepare a people (Matthew 24:14, 28:18-20).

It’s interesting that while the two loaves are leavened, representing that humans will sin right up until they are finally changed from flesh and human nature (1 John 1:10), the Work of the Church is likened positively to God’s “woman took and hid in three measures of meal till it was all leavened” (Luke 13:21). The Bible teaches three main resurrections which are all explained in the one chapter of Revelation 20. All humans who have ever lived will have their opportunity for salvation!

When you hear somebody arguing that the First Resurrection will be on a Pentecost, your automatic rebuttal is: The Resurrection is plainly stated to occur at the Seventh Trumpet. So it has to be on a Feast of Trumpets!

Not so fast! Proponents state that trumpets are blown on all of the Holy Days. A trumpet blasted on Pentecost when the 10 Commandments were given at Mt. Sinai so loud it made the people tremble! (Exodus 19:16, Hebrews 12:19). However, appearing to mute the argument, Acts 2 mentions no trumpet being blown at this most famous Pentecost ever. Numbers 10:10 seems to indicate two silver trumpets are blown on Holy Days rather than a ram’s horn shofar that would be blown for the Seventh and Last Trumpet. However, the trumpet blown in Exodus 19:16 was a shofar.

The fact that both epoch Pentecosts of Exodus 19 and Acts 2 involved whirlwinds

seems to have significance. Ezekiel 1 describes YHWH coming as a whirlwind in His portable throne, and this passage is read in synagogues on Pentecost. So it’s very interesting that Isaiah 66:15 and Zechariah 9:14 prophesy that whirlwinds will accompany Jesus Christ’s return.

But just when you “aha! … that settles the issue!”, Isaiah says He is coming in anger to judge and Zechariah says He will “defend … devour and subdue.” In the Pentecost scenario, He’s supposed to do that on Trumpets and be resurrecting on Pentecost! Nobody argues that the conquering return is on Pentecost or that all of the significant events would take place on Pentecost!

And if the Seventh and Last Trumpet blows on Pentecost, the one that would blow on the following Feast of Trumpets for the conquering of the earth would seem upstaged.

Conclusion: The simple truth appears to be that Pentecost and Trumpets both significantly relate to the First Resurrection. And even though sincere brethren make compelling cases for both dates, I expect we’ll find out that nobody except the Father knows the hour or day! Jesus will confound: “I’m here! And you didn’t know when … like a thief in the night!” How easy it would be for the Father to have the Seventh Trumpet blow on a day other than a Feast of Trumpets or a Pentecost and then fulfill all the prophesied events.

Pentecost for 2021 will be in two weeks—Sunday, May 16. God says it’d be a good idea for us to be keeping it! What a great joy to meet with other like-minded members for two special services on that day! All things are possible through the power of the Holy Spirit! If you’d like to know how to keep Pentecost, email me.

The Day of the Lord: Will All the Seventh Trumpet Events Take Place on One Day?

The Day of the Lord will change everything. We want to be part of the 144,000.

Since the Second Coming is rated the biggest event of human history, no wonder there are varying ideas about the branches and twigs. What do Revelation 14, 15 and 19 really predict?

Rather than ignore these out of unreasonable fear to avoid division, let’s humbly hold them up to Scripture and analyze Berean-like whether these things be so (Acts 17:11). God expects us to grow in grace and knowledge (2 Peter 3:18). God tells His faithful “not to strive about words to no profit, to the ruin of the hearers [but] be diligent to present yourself approved to God, a worker who does not need to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth” (2 Timothy 2:14-15). Yes, be careful and honest with the Holy Scriptures, but boldly look at what the Bible says in these key chapters! For months now, I have been asking God to guide me to put this together correctly—compiling, comparing and evaluating with Scripture what Churches of God teach, and especially asking God to inspire me to include what He wants but especially to stop me from writing anything I should not. The God who spoke through a jackass is quite capable of this!

All in one day? It makes a tidy package to think that all of these Seventh Trumpet big events will take place on one day. Since 1 Thessalonians 4:16, 1 Corinthians 15:52 and Matthew 24:31 all say the resurrection occurs at the Seventh Trumpet, and Zechariah 9:14-15 links together the Lord devouring and subduing the earth when the trumpet is blown, that means the two big parts—the resurrection and the conquering—are linked to the Seventh and Last Trumpet. Remember how the Great Tribulation, Place of Safety, Times of the Gentiles, Beast and False Prophet, and Two Witnesses last the same amount of time, 3-1/2 years or 42 months, and at first glance you’d think they’d end on the same day—“the end” when Daniel will arise for his inheritance, at the First Resurrection (Daniel 12:13). But technically, the Place of Safety and the Two Witnesses end with the resurrection, and the Great Tribulation, Times of the Gentiles, Beast and False Prophet will end when Jesus Christ conquers the rebellious earth. Will all that occur in one day?

It looks like all the facets of the Seventh Trumpet—which includes the Seven Last Plagues—can’t possibly squeeze into a 24-hour period. Consider the Sixth Plague where “kings of the earth and of the whole world assemble for the battle of that great day of God Almighty” (Revelation 16:14) and then mobilize to Jerusalem to fight Christ and His heavenly army. And women readers might appreciate all the complexities of pulling off the most important wedding of all time!

Of course, with God a 1,000 years of events could be as if a day (2 Peter 3:8). God is above time and space. If He wills, God can drag out a long day that makes Joshua’s look like the blink of an eye! You’ve probably had one of those!

Some believe that all the action between the blowing of the Seventh Trumpet in Revelation 11:15 and the putting away of satan in Revelation 20:2 will be up to nine days rather than just one. Jesus Christ and His army of saints and angels would come down to the Mount of Olives on or just prior to the Day of Atonement—so we wouldn’t know exactly which day, that’s good. There would be nine days between a resurrection on a Feast of Trumpets (Tishri 1) and the following Day of Atonement (Tishri 10).

A delay between the time earth saw Christ coming in clouds to resurrect saints and when He comes to conquer explains why the Beast and False Prophet might be able to alarm the earth, conditioned by popular movies like “Independence Day,” into repelling an invading alien. You’d think they would not be foolish enough to fight God! Until we honestly consider our own proclivity to resist God! Revelation 19 ends with Christ conquering the armies and casting the Beast and False Prophet into the Lake of Fire. Next immediately follows satan and his demons being put away in chapter 20 which surely will occur on a Day of Atonement. A Jubilee year begins on a Day of Atonement, and no doubt Christ’s Millennium will begin with a year of Jubilee (Isaiah 61, Luke 4:16-21). How fitting for Jesus Christ, who qualified to replace satan as ruler of the earth during 40 days of temptation (Matthew 4), to actually replace him as ruler of the earth on the Day of Atonement that features his removal!

Critics of the idea that the resurrection and the conquering return wouldn’t occur on the same day deride it as “the rapture heresy” or “a flyby.” God has a knack for confounding critics!

Notice the intriguing wording in 1 Corinthians 15, one of the key chapters about the first resurrection: “But each one in his own order; Christ the firstfruits, afterward those who are Christ’s at His coming. THEN COMES THE END, when He delivers the kingdom to God the Father, when He puts an end to all rule and all authority and power” (verses 23-24). It sounds like some kind of gap between the resurrection and the conquering.

Conclusion: We can’t say enough that Jesus said only the Father knows the day or hour of His coming (Matthew 24:36). If everything does not finish in one day, the Father will be quite capable of adjusting and completing the various time periods to bring His Son at the right time. For example, perhaps the Two Witnesses will begin 3-1/2 days earlier than the other 42-month periods to make their witness last 3-1/2 years though they lie dead in Jerusalem for their last 3-1/2 days. It should be easy for us to trust the Master Timer to take care of the big details for such hugely important events! Likely, only the Father knows exactly how long the Seventh Trumpet events will last.

One day? A few? Nine? Do I hear four months? That’s a tease, you won’t want to miss the next post!

The Day of the Lord: The 144,000 & Great Innumerable Multitude

The Day of the Lord Will Change Everything. Before the Seven Trumpets blow, two groups will be sealed called “the servants of our God” (7:3):

The 144,000 & the great innumerable multitude!

Who are these?  Ask two Christians and you’ll get three opinions!   Let’s go by Scripture. First, let’s consider the great innumerable multitude because it has bearing on the 144,000.

The great innumerable multitude. These are of “all nations, tribes, peoples, and tongues” (Revelation 7:9) “who come out of the great tribulation, and washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb” (verse 14).   The Church of God carries out the Great Commission as a witness and example in hopes that many would “glorify God in the day of visitation” (1 Peter 2:12).  Apparently this multitude  has to prove themselves in martyrdom.   After the Church as a whole is taken to the Place of Safety, the enraged dragon comes after those “who keep the commandments of God and have the testimony of Jesus Christ” (Revelation 12:17); perhaps some just didn’t have the faith to go to the Place of Safety and leave family and possessions behind. After the great multitude, how sad that Revelation records nobody repenting—they’re too busy cursing and blaspheming. The lesson is to repent now (2 Chronicles 7:14)!

The 144,000. These are sealed out of all the tribes of the children of Israel,” 12,000 of each tribe except Dan (Revelation 7:3-8).  Dan was a center of idolatry (1 Kings 12:28-30). Modern Dan includes Catholic Ireland, and Jewish tradition believed the Antichrist would come from Dan. Genesis 49:18 prophesied Dan would wait for his salvation.

Some reason: how can there be only 12,000 from the big tribes of Israel like Manassah (United States) and Ephraim (British Commonwealth) and how could you gather 12,000 from tribes like Issachar (Finland)? So they conclude 12 is the number of organization so it’s symbolic—12 Apostles, 12 Tribes of Israel, 12 New Jerusalem gates.

God states, “For surely I “will sift the house of Israel among all nations, as grain is sifted in a sieve; yet not the smallest grain shall fall to the ground” (Amos 9:9). It’s ironic today that United Church of God has about 7,000 family members in the United States and about 6,000 in Angola! God calls whom He wills!

It would seem this group of 144,000 also comes out of the Great Tribulation since they are discussed at the same time as the Gentile multitude. The Seven Trumpets are held up until they are sealed. Christians are sealed with the Holy Spirit upon repentance, baptism, and the laying on of hands! (Ephesians 1:13-14). Righteous saints from Abel up until the time of the first resurrection will have already been sealed with the Holy Spirit. That these in Revelation 7 are called “servants of our God” certainly sounds like they are in the process of conversion and sanctification—set apart! God will make sure that physical descendants of Israel will live into the Millennium to become His model nation to the Gentiles. They are specifically promised protection from the Fifth Trumpet which will torment the earth for five months (Revelation 9:4-5).

The other five Trumpets don’t specify how long they last, appropriately denying the ability to pinpoint exactly when the Seventh Trumpet will blow. The Father knows how to keep a secret!

This group seems to differ from the 144,000 of Revelation 14. This group in Revelation 7 is by tribe of Israel, called and converted out of Great Tribulation.

Before unleashing the trumpeters, God considers “the prayers of the saints,” perhaps all that had ever been uttered (8:3). I hope you’re adding to the sweet savor!

The Seventh Trumpet, which includes the Seven Last Plagues, especially changes everything.  It’s blowing is

The turning point of history

Jesus Christ will come like “lightning from the east and flashes to the west” (Matthew 24:27).   “For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout” (1 Thessalonians 4:16).   How reminiscent of when Joshua and the Israelites blew the trumpets and shouted (Joshua 6:15-16), and the walls of Jericho fell flat!

All the earth “will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory [just as He was seen leaving in Acts 1:11].  And He will send His angels … and they will gather together His elect from the four winds” (Matthew 24:30-31). This is when they carry Lazarus in Christ’s parable of Luke 16:22 up to Abraham’s bosom. “The Father of the Faithful” and all faithful are resurrected into an intimate relationship for all eternity at this time! No doubt this will be

The rapturous feeling of a lifetime! But hardly a secret!

A piercing shout and trumpet blast! All the earth will see. But rapturous at their Savior’s promised return? They’ll mourn (Matthew 24:30)!

And saints are not going to be saved up in heaven from the Great Tribulation because Christ’s coming is after the Great Tribulation. The Secret Rapture heresy is satan’s twist on God’s people being taken to the Place of Safety where they will be protected from the Great Tribulation.

“Behold, I tell you a mystery:  We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed—in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet … the dead will be raised incorruptible, and we shall all be changed” (1 Corinthians 15:51-52).

“And the dead in Christ will rise first.  Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air” (1 Thessalonians 4:16-17).  Those who stay dead won’t know they’re missing anything (Ecclesiastes 9:5) until they come up in a future resurrection. But could there be a greater disappointment for the living who expect to rise but they’re not leaving the ground! The bridegroom came when five virgins were out of Holy Spirit and told them “I do not know you (Matthew 25:12). Could there be worse words to ever hear! But oh, the joy unspeakable for those made full of glory! Because they are ready! You can be! We must be!

For those left behind, probably there will be too much chaos for anybody to be driving anyway, and by then all cars may be driverless.   God is so merciful, I believe He will work out circumstances so a plane will not suddenly be without a pilot. Probably most of the living changed to Spirit will be rising from the Place of Safety.

Revelation 14 also mentions 144,000

Is this a second batch?  This one is the completed, resurrected, glorified Church of God! The firstfruits from righteous Abel on down to those who are in the first resurrection. Us!

Is this precisely 144,000? This has been a thorny issue for some big false churches with way more members! But when the Philadelphia era of the Church of God started approaching that magic number, suddenly heresy hacked it down to about one-tenth and back to being God’s “little flock” (Luke 12:32) on the difficult path that “few find” (Matthew 7:14). God counts the stars by name and knows the number of hairs on our head. He says 144,000 firstfruits (Revelation 14:1-5) so argue with Him!

These are undefiled spiritual virgins who follow the Lamb wherever He goes and “were redeemed from among men, being firstfruits to God and to the Lamb …”

The Day of the Lord Will Change Everything!

  • How long is the Day of the Lord?
  • When will Jesus Christ return?

John writes, “I was in the Spirit on the Lord’s Day” (Revelation 1:10). He was mentally transported to

The Day of the Lord

mentioned directly or indirectly more than 50 times in the Bible. John was not referring to worshipping on Sunday; Jesus said the Lord’s Day is the Sabbath (Luke 6:5), and the Bible Knowledge Commentary says “Lord’s” is an adjective never used in the Bible for the first day of the week.

While the Great Tribulation will be the time of satan’s wrath, the Day of the Lord—the time of God’s wrath—is the Seventh Seal consisting of Seven Trumpets.  About two-thirds of Revelation is devoted to this seal.

The Day of the Lord lasts one year (Isaiah 34:8).  Since 1 Corinthians 15:52 clearly states that Jesus Christ comes back and resurrects the saints “at the last trumpet,” Churches of God believe that the Day of the Lord will last one year from the First Trumpet through the Seventh Trumpet.

The Second Coming has been called the greatest headline waiting to be written! Naturally, human curiosity craves to know when Jesus Christ is returning. “Now as He sat on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to Him privately, saying, ‘Tell us, when will these things be? And what will be the sign of Your coming, and of the end of the age?” (Matthew 24:3). When Jesus appeared to them after His resurrection, they still wanted to know: “Lord, will You at this time restore the kingdom to Israel?” (Acts 1:6). And who of us doesn’t want to know!

But, we must never forget that Jesus stressed

“Of that day and hour no one knows,

not even the angels of heaven, but My Father only” (Matthew 24:36). Now that Christ is up with the Father, is He in on the secret?

Psalm 102:13 says the Father has “the set time” and Daniel 8:19 and Acts 17:31 say an “appointed” time. How else could Jesus start the Millennium exactly at the end of 6,000 years, at the start of a Jubilee year, cutting time short lest nobody be saved alive, but giving scoffers ammunition to think He delays His coming. All of that can only be fulfilled by one specific time, and only the Father knows which time fulfills all that! Do we believe Jesus, He says nobody else knows besides the Father!

History has seen plenty of predictions end up in “great disappointment” like in 1844. Likely you’ve had one!   I’m guessing it will turn out that nobody knew! Just like the Father says!

With few exceptions, Church of God brethren today were taught by God’s Apostle of the Philadelphia era who wrote: “And perhaps the glorious second coming shall occur, in whatever year it may be, on this very day of the Feast of Trumpets—who knows? While we cannot say for certain, yet cannot we see this possibility?… Repeatedly Jesus warned us to watch, regarding His second coming! Could it be possible that, unless we are observing the Feast of Trumpets, as the first-century Church of God was observing Pentecost, that we shall not be ready, or caught up to meet Him? We do not—we cannot, of course, say; but we do ask the question. Is it not possible? Let us humbly and willingly yield to walk obediently in all the light” (Herbert W. Armstrong, Pagan Holidays or God’s Holy Days—Which?, 1976 edition, page 40).

Since Passover pictures the Lamb’s crucifixion and it occurred on a Passover, and as many as five big victories over sin occurred on the Last Day of Unleavened Bread [Sodom and Gomorrah, Exodus, Jericho, Gideon and Esther], and satan and his demons will surely be banished on a coming Day of Atonement, Christ returning on a Feast of Trumpets seems so likely that it’s tempting to believe it has to be so.

Up until recently, I would argue: Yes, we don’t know the hour. But we know the day—just not which Feast of Trumpets!

And, thanks to Daniel 12 indicating that from when the Abomination of Desolation is set up and the sacrifices taken away, it will be 1,290 days until the first resurrection, we should be on high alert when we see the sacrifices begin, and it sounds like when we see them taken away, we will be able to start counting down its then-no-longer-secret arrival! If we somehow miss that, how could we miss all the powerful events beginning 30 days later at 1,260 days such as the Two Witnesses squaring off against the Beast and False Prophet! It sounds like simple counting will pinpoint when the Seventh Trumpet will blow about 3-1/2 years before!

Well, “No prophecy of Scripture is of any private interpretation” (2 Peter 1:20), though the book of Revelation especially tempts us all to feed the urge!  Paul pleaded with us to “all speak the same thing, and that there be no divisions among you” (1 Corinthians 1:10). Remember that the understanding of Revelation is given to God’s Church, and thanks to understanding His Holy Days which is crucial to the timing of the events of Revelation, the Churches of God generally agree on the trunk-of-the-tree events. Revelation states clearly the big foundational events.

♦   Revelation 11:15—Seventh and last Trumpet sounds. The saints are resurrected.
♦   Revelation 15-16—The Seven Last Plagues.
♦   Revelation 19:7-9—The Wedding Supper.
♦   Revelation 19:11-20—The Return of Jesus the fifth horseman, the angels, and the saints to conquer the earth, the Beast, the False Prophet, the false Church.

None of these is an insert chapter; therefore these big events seem chronological, based on the seals, trumpets and plagues being sequential. Believing that the book of Revelation is chronological except for the inset chapters is crucial for timing the events.

The Day of the Lord will be the last year of the 3-1/2 years.  Since that is the time of God’s wrath and also the last year of satan’s wrath, how desirable to be in the Place of Safety!

The Day of the Lord begins in Revelation 6:17 and ends when God’s wrath is “done” (Revelation 16:17) with a great earthquake and 100-pound hailstones. Actually, all will be “done” when Jesus Christ and His heavenly army complete the Seventh Last Plague when they ride down, conquer and finish putting away all rebellion in 19:21. That would complete the Seventh and Last Trumpet so that “The kingdoms of this world have become the kingdoms of our Lord and of His Christ, and He shall reign forever and ever!” (Revelation 11:15). That whole process will be as good as complete when the Seventh Trumpet sounds because God will fulfill His announced plans (Isaiah 46:9-10).

When you think “Day of the Lord,” think WHOA!   An angel stops the lips of the trumpeters about to blow (Revelation 7:1), including the Fifth, Sixth and Seventh Trumpets called “WOES” in which a third of mankind is killed (Revelation 9:18)!   One-fourth had already been killed so good math would say [1/3 x ¾=1/4] so only one-half is left. To be spared God’s wrath we must all rein ourselves in from being involved in modern Babylon (Revelation 18:4). OK, enough punishment!

Before the trumpets blow, two groups will be sealed called “the servants of our God” (7:3): 144,000 and a great innumerable multitude! Don’t miss the next exciting Part 2 post on the Day of the Lord!


Remember how the book of Psalms has five divisions, and they match up in amazing ways with the five books of the Pentateuch (Torah) and the five Megilloth books. This week I heard an interesting observation that the fourth division of Psalms (Psalms 90-106) relates to the Millennium and the fifth (Psalms 107-150) to after the Millennium (Revelation 20-22). After you learn the foundational truth that God inspired His Bible to be a puzzle that we have to put together “here a little, there a little” (Isaiah 28:13), over time you will learn more amazing ways that God has structured it which could not have been planned out by 40 different men writing over about 1,500 years of time.

Famine of the Word

It’s coming because God prophesies it in Amos 8:11. With each passing day we are seeing more religious and conservative information being cancelled and suppressed by the mainstream media and social tech.

But just maybe there will be another angle that I hadn’t thought of: A famine can be because there is no food available, but the same result of starvation occurs if the people refuse or just don’t bother to eat what is available.

A minister I know who is broadcasting sermons via Facebook streaming, commented that he quit writing a blog because it felt too impersonal. He didn’t know who was reading it or benefiting by it. On Facebook streaming, he can see names of those connected and even comments they “chat.”

I get that. It frustrates me that I know only a handful of you subscribers. I seldom get any comments except from one of my daughters who sends back a thoughtful, appreciative one every time. My email (robertcurry6@hotmail.com) is always receptive.

Isaiah 55:11 it!

So I rely on God, who knows what you need, to inspire me to supply it. I rely on him to “Isaiah 55:11 it” when I hit the “publish” button.

A personal request to ucgcamps: I really appreciate it that you like every post. I’m sure I probably know you. Would you be so kind to email me at robertcurry6@hotmail.com and tell me who you are! The irony is that I created that website to write up some UCG summer camps and no longer know how to get back in it. And I can’t help wondering how you are able to use it to comment! I sure would love to hear from you and share a laugh about that!

We just finished the Seven Days of Unleavened Bread, so that means it’s

Time to plan for the Feast of Tabernacles in September!

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My wife and I have chosen Steamboat Springs in Colorado, and tomorrow we will request our housing at the magnificent Steamboat Grand Hotel for the eight glorious days. God’s people can keep His command to attend His Feast because we also keep His command to save a second tithe.

If there’s anything you are going to regularly read in this blog, it’s about keeping God’s amazing Holy Days. I keep pointing out that we must get ready and not just think we can wait for the last minute. Do I hear Luke 21:36?

But actually our immediate target is the next Holy Day—Pentecost on May 16.

Keeping Pentecost is the best chance for most because even false churches and ministers sometimes hold a Pentecost service since it is on a Sunday. Churches of God like to joke: What are we doing here on a Sunday?!” Pentecost has meaning that most have no clue about. That’s because it shows that most are not called now! So how could they have a clue!

God is not calling the world as a whole today. In 2020 there were supposedly 2.4 billion Christians in the world—the most of any religion. But you’ll read here how God has called only a few down throughout the 6,000 years of human history. His flock is little (Luke 12:32) and only a “few” find His narrow, difficult gate at this time (Matthew 7:14). I hope that’s you!

Well, Pentecost is one of God’s commanded Holy Days. So is the Feast of Tabernacles, and you will need to be saving second tithe to be able to keep it in September. Don’t miss out on downloading the FREE eBook above! I absolutely promise you, just as God does, you cannot outgive God, and the second tithe is giving to yourself. When people wonder how I and my family have traveled all around the United States and the popular places of the world, that’s how!

The Book of Revelation: We Must Act on What God Reveals to Us!

The last book of the Bible takes its name from the Greek apocalypsis, meaning “revealing” or “unveiling.”  We must “read … hear … and keep the words of this prophecy (Revelation 1:3) so we can be unveiled as part of the Bride! We must act on what God reveals to us!

This is “the Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God [the Father] gave Him to show His servants [the spiritual Church of God]—things which must shortly take place” (verse 1). God told Daniel, “the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end…. the wise shall understand (Daniel 12:9-10).   That should include us!

The two God Beings created Their plan together and here They reveal together the grand finale!

John saw visions of Christ in His glory (Revelation 1:13-15) and the third heaven throne room (chapters 4 and 5) with the Father and the Lamb.   The Bible ends as it begins, with no God Being of the Holy Spirit anywhere!   That’s good news for you because it means the godhead is not a closed triangle but rather the two God Beings will add billions to their Family! I hope God is working with you now!

Jesus gave crucial information for understanding this enigmatic book in His Olivet Prophecy (Matthew 24).    And to understand Revelation, we must compare with the entire written Word of God—especially the book of Daniel.  

Revelation features lots of sevens—the number of perfection and completeness—and the first three chapters feature

The Seven Churches

Jesus wrote seven love letters to His Bride.

He picked out seven local churches (out of many more) to illustrate His messages—which admonish all churches in all time.  They give the successive eras of the Church from Ephesus the Apostolic Church down to our end time which still has Sardis, Philadelphia and Laodicea in existence.  The Seven Churches speak to each Christian of all times “who has an ear to hear” and wants the seven rewards promised “to him who overcomes.”

Laodicean attitudes will be dominant at the end time: thinking you are rich and increased spiritually when you are blind and naked. Before accusing anyone of being Laodicean, about which Jesus has nothing good to say, we should be looking in a mirror.  As one sister in Christ put it so aptly, “We’re all Laodicean.”

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We want to be Philadelphian, the Church about which Jesus has nothing bad to say.  It has the “key of David” (Revelation 3:7) because Jesus through the Holy Spirit opens doors for it to complete the Great Commission (Matthew 24:14, 28:18-20) and to teach about the 12 Tribes of Israel.  Jesus through the Holy Spirit is the key to eternal life in the Family and Kingdom of God.

The Father holds a scroll with seven seals, and only “the Lion of the tribe of Judah, the Root of David”—Jesus Christ the Lamb—can loose the seals and open it (Revelation 5:5).   He unrolls the scroll, and Revelation follows mostly in chronological order of seals, trumpets, woes and vials.  Some inset chapters [2-3, 12-14 and 17-18] catch the reader up with necessary background.

The six seals

The first five seals describe conditions that go back to John’s time (1:19) but escalate like birth pains (Matthew 24:8) in frequency and intensity.   The first four are the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse which Jesus identified as false religion, war, famine and disease resulting in a fourth of the earth killed! (Revelation 6:8).  How appropriate that first rider to this discussion!   The whole world is deceived until the fifth rider—Jesus Christ—saddles up in Revelation 19!

The fifth seal is the Great Tribulation, “such as has not been since the beginning of the world until this time, no, nor ever shall be.  And unless those days were shortened, no flesh would be saved [alive]; but for the elect’s sake [you, I hope!] those days will be shortened” (Matthew 24:21-22).  This is the time of “Jacob’s trouble” (Jeremiah 30:7) for spiritual Israel and for the physical 12 Tribes of Israel.  I hope it shocks us into repentant obedience that Ezekiel 5:1-4 and Amos 5:3 indicate only a tithe [one-tenth] of physical Israel will survive the coming captivity! This is the time of satan’s wrath because for the second time the accuser of the brethren will be cast down, and he knows his time is short (Revelation 12:10, 12).

♦   The Great Tribulation is the same period of time as four other major events which are said to last 1,260 days, 42 months, or times/time/1/2 a time.   These are the same amount of time and roughly at the same time because all are ended by the first resurrection and second coming of Jesus Christ (Daniel 12:13).

♦   The Beast and False Prophet. A 10-nation powerhouse in Europe, led once again by Germany (modern “Assyria, the rod of My [God’s] anger (Isaiah 10:5)”, the seventh resurrection of the Holy Roman Empire called Babylon the Great,  led by a charismatic political/
military leader [a German probably] and the great spiritual leader, a Pope presiding over the Catholic Church and her Protestant daughters (Revelation 17:5).   Watch out!—they “deceive, if possible, even the elect” (Matthew 24:24). It’s been said that a Fatima vision says the most persuasive miracle will be the Virgin Mary appearing in the sky, visible to the whole earth, saying of the false spiritual leader, “This is my Son, worship Him!”

♦   The Times of the Gentiles.   The lost Tribes of Israel will be taken into captivity by the Beast—Britain [not great anymore!], Canada, Australia, South Africa—and even the United States!  The King of the South will push [Oil? Immigration?] and the King of the North invades Jerusalem like a whirlwind (Daniel 11:40-41).  Thirty days before the Great Tribulation starts (Daniel 12:11), the Beast stops the sacrifices in Jerusalem—which the Temple Institute is eager to start today along with building a temple—and sets up the Abomination of Desolation which parallels what Antiochus IV Epiphanes did on Dec. 16, 168 B.C. when he desecrated the temple by sacrificing swine’s blood on an altar of Zeus (Matthew 24:15).

♦   The two witnesses.   Two powerful figures command worldwide attention as they confront the Beast and False Prophet and witness for God with power like Moses and Elijah wielded.   They are the two olive trees and lampstands of Zechariah 4:11-14. The whole world will tune in to see their dead bodies lying in Jerusalem for 3-1/2 days, which is possible now through worldwide communication of this modern Tower of Babel. Then they are resurrected—apparently the first ones at the Seventh Trumpet (Revelation 11:11-15). Through their leadership hopefully brethren will unify if they’re not in …

♦   The Place of Safety.  The Church will be silenced, “cancelled” in today’s jargon, resulting in a famine of “hearing the words of the Lord” (Amos 8:11).   Famine can be from no food available but also from people refusing to eat what God has provided. The Philadelphia Church was promised “I also will keep you from the hour of trial which shall come upon the whole world, to test those who dwell on the earth” (Revelation 3:10).  In 12:14 “the woman was given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness to her place …”  Though this sounds like going by airplane, God says He took Israel out of Egypt by “eagles’ wings—40 years of walking! What if He parts the Atlantic for us! I can’t blame you for thinking that idea doesn’t hold water. But God promises the Second Exodus will make people forget the first! (Jeremiah 23:7).

Zephaniah, meaning “hidden,” wrote “It may be that you will be hidden in the day of the Lord’s anger” (2:3).   Recall how in the book of Exodus the last seven of the 10 Plagues were only inflicted on Egypt.  Of course, God says that He will have some special witnesses who can handle the pressure and martyrdom (Daniel 11:33-35).   A Christian has to be willing to lose his life for God (Matthew 16:25), but I know where I’m hoping God takes me! It sounds like 3-1/2 years to receive special training for serving in the Millennium—like when Saul was specially taught by Christ for his mission—in Arabia, probably Petra!

The Bible doesn’t say where the Place of Safety is, but if it isn’t Petra in Jordan, where would it be! People have tried to place dibs on the best caves, especially one with a two-camel garage! I’ve been there twice, and you wouldn’t survive without God’s protection.  It’s going to take watching and praying (Luke 21:36) and being close to God and His Church to know when and where to flee and to have faith to do it.

The sixth seal:  the heavenly signs

show up immediately after the Great Tribulation and before the Seventh Trumpet (Matthew 24:29-31).  Today’s blood moons and solar eclipses that arrive as calculated are NOT these supernatural terrifying signs from God. Joel prophesied of these signs “before the coming of the great and awesome day of the Lord … [when] whoever calls on the name of the Lord shall be saved” (2:30-32).  Trouble is, Revelation says people hide in caves and beg mountain rocks to “fall on us and hide us from the face of Him who sits on the throne and from the wrath of the Lamb!  For the great day of His wrath has come, and who is able to stand?” (Revelation 6:16-17).  It’d be better to kneel!

It’s time for the Day of the Lord, and humble submission.

When Was the Crucifixion? A Calendar Program Confirms the Date From the 70 Weeks Prophecy

Last post I shared with you how an easy-to-use, FREE-on-the-Internet calendar program [http://www.cgsf.org/dbeattie/calendar/] pinpoints the date of the Exodus. With this same program we can prove that Jesus Christ was crucified on April 25, A.D. 31.

Significantly, this confirms the same date shown by the 70 Weeks Prophecy of Daniel 9. Follow the link for a detailed analysis of Daniel 9, but the core part is that from the Decree of Artaxerxes in 457 B.C., we subtract 483 (69 weeks x 7) = A.D. 26, and add one year because no year zero. So Christ began His public ministry in A.D. 27 in the Fall and ended His life 3-1/2 years later in A.D. 31. The 70 Weeks Prophecy said Christ would be cut off in the middle of a week—3-1/2 years but also on a Wednesday. Crucifixion on Wednesday and the details about the women buying and preparing spices perfectly fit the Holy Day pattern of the Bible in both A.D. 31 and A.D. 30.

A huge Bible clue rules out A.D. 30

The Bible shows in John 7-9 that the Eighth Day [Tishri 22] in the year before Christ’s crucifixion was on a Sabbath. Using the calendar program for all the nearby years, only A.D. 31 fits this Bible requirement. In A.D. 30 the Eighth Day was on a Sabbath. For A.D. 30, the Eighth Day in A.D. 29 was on a Tuesday. While the Eighth Day was on a Sabbath in A.D. 27, the Passover in A.D. 28 was on a Tuesday.

Those who want to try to make the Bible agree with the false doctrine of Good Friday/Easter Sunday favor A.D. 26. The Bible stipulates that the next day after Jesus’ death was a “high day” Sabbath (John 19:31). A.D. 26 has the First Day of Unleavened Bread occurring on Saturday. Of course, you can’t honestly get three days and three nights—the only sign Jesus gave of His Messiahship (Matthew 12:40)—in between Friday 3 p.m. and Sunday morning. If you’d like detailed proof, click this link for a FREE booklet: https://www.ucg.org/bible-study-tools/booklets/holidays-or-holy-days-does-it-matter-which-days-we-observe.

And for good measure, the Eighth Day in A.D. 25 is a Tuesday not a Sabbath.

So, A.D. 31 is the only year that fits the Bible conditions. So Jesus Christ was crucified on April 25, A.D. 31.

When Was the Exodus? A Calendar Program Solves the Bible Clues

If you saw Tim Mahoney’s “Patterns of Evidence” movie on the Exodus, you saw how most scholars reject Exodus (both the event and the book) as being fiction with no historical or archeological proof. But Mahoney showed that not only the Exodus but the conquering of Canaan perfectly matched history and archeology when properly placed two centuries earlier. Ironically, those scholars refused his evidence and kept on teaching error in their classes and books!

Well, you’re in luck! I’m no scholar! I want whatever the true history is.

God is the Master Timer, and there are three clues in His Bible to pinpoint the year of the Exodus—with the help of a Hebrew-to-Roman Calendar Converter that you can access for FREE off the Internet at Cgsf.org/dbeattie/calendar/. Just type in the Roman year [for example, 1446 B.C.; for an A.D. date, just the year] you are interested in to see the corresponding Hebrew dates. The voice of experience says to be very careful to stipulate 1446 B.C. if you don’t want 1446 [A.D.]. I had to recheck a lot of dates and ended up with dramatically different results!

The #1 Big Clue: 1 Kings 6:1 says “And it came to pass in the four hundred and eightieth year after the children of Israel had come out of the land of Egypt, in the fourth year of Solomon’s reign over Israel …”

The United Church of God’s Bible Commentary on 1 Kings 6 says, “Solomon’s first year … was 970/969 B.C., and his fourth year (in which he began the construction of the temple) was 967/966 B.C. Based on these dates, we may conclude that the Exodus occurred in or very close to the year 1447/1446 B.C. [arrived at by adding 480 years to 967/966 B.C.] … As regards chronology, this chapter also provides us with a way to determine whether Judah was counting the years of a king’s reign using a Nisan-to-Nisan (spring-to-spring) or a Tishri-to-Tishri (autumn-to-autumn) reckoning on the Hebrew calendar.  If Judah had been using a Nisan-to-Nisan reckoning of regnal years, the temple would have been described as eight years in building. However, using a Tishri-to-Tishri reckoning yields the seven years of 1 Kings 6:38.”

Solomon’s fourth year is traditionally pegged at 967/966 B.C., so the traditional date for the Exodus is 480 years from the spring half of 966 B.C. = 1446 B.C. This has been the date I have commonly heard for over 50 years and added to my “inspired” margin. Recently I saw a professor I respect immensely post on Facebook that it was 1446 B.C.

However, Dan Dowd, a member of UCG Council of Elders who has done much research and published his own timelines for the Old and New Testaments, says 967-966 B.C. is Solomon’s first year, not fourth year, so his fourth year= 964/963 B.C. So the Exodus would be 963+480=1443 B.C.

The #2 Big Clue: Joshua 6 shows that as the Israelites were about to invade Jericho 40 years after the Exodus, the Passover [Nisan 14] had to have been on a Sabbath because the next day the Israelites were able to eat food from the land and the manna had ceased. This shows that this next day had to have been a Sunday during the Days of Unleavened Bread and the Wave Sheaf Offering had been given.

The Big Reveal: Typing in the possible Jericho dates into the Calendar Conversion Program for 10 years on either side of 1406 reveals only three years in which a Passover was on a Sabbath: 1403 [matching Dan Dowd’s 1443 Exodus]; 1407 (matching a 1447 B.C. Exodus within one year of the traditional 1446 B.C.]; and 1410 [matching a 1450 B.C. Exodus). Interestingly, for this year of 2021, the Passover was on a Saturday and that truly made it more challenging because of requiring much time and driving to keep the Passover on Friday night, the Night To Be Much Observed on Saturday night, and the First Day of Unleavened Bread service on Sunday. Many commented on how that combination seemed like a rarity!

Restating: According to 1 Kings 6 and Joshua 6, the only three possible years for the Exodus within a 20-year likely period are 1443 B.C., 1447 B.C. and 1450 B.C. Sorry, 1446 B.C. does not satisfy the Joshua 6 requirement.

Coming closest to the traditional date of 1446 B.C. would be 1447 B.C.. That certainly elevates the odds for 1447 B.C.!

A third clue to consider: Exodus 12:41 says “And it came to pass at the end of the four hundred and thirty years—on that very same day—it came to pass that all the armies of the Lord went out from the land of Egypt.” It is generally thought that this event 430 years earlier would have been the Abrahamic Covenant. Dating back to Abraham’s time definitely doesn’t seem to be exactly agreed upon! One popular Internet Bible timeline dated the Abrahamic Covenant as 1879 B.C. You’ll see in the next paragraph that the three possible dates for the Exodus come within six years of this—one within a year and one within two years.

This event is said to have occurred “on that very same day”—Nisan 15, the First Day of Unleavened Bread. Taking our three Exodus dates [1443 B.C., 1447 B.C. and 1450 B.C. and adding 430 years yields an interesting result. In 1873 B.C. and 1877 B.C., Nisan 15 would be a Sunday. Only in 1880 B.C. was Nisan 15 a Sabbath. Somehow I’d have to think God would have made the Abrahamic Covenant with Abraham on a Sabbath [circumcision was the sign of the Abrahamic Covenant and the Sabbath became a sign of God as Creator and showing whom are His people (Exodus 31)].

Perhaps it’s enough for the Abrahamic Covenant to be made on a Nisan 15, a First Day of Unleavened Bread—holy time. But if it was also made on a Sabbath, making a double Sabbath,

Then the Exodus occurring 1450 B.C. seems to be the best year

Going backward, could Solomon’s fourth year have been 971/970 B.C.?

If the traditional 967/966 B.C. is correct within one year, then 1447 B.C. is most likely. If 964/963 B.C. is correct, then 1443 B.C. is the correct date.

Superficial study on the Internet shows that 967/966 B.C. may be traditional but is not agreed by all. Compounding the difficulty is that some “experts” say you would add 479 years to get 480 inclusive—apparently like you count 50 days “from” the Sunday during the Days of Unleavened Bread and arrive on a Sunday for Pentecost because Hebrew counts inclusively. If that would also mean we must add 429 years instead of 430, it’s interesting that the Exodus in 1450 B.C. results in a Sabbath both in 1879 B.C. and 1880 B.C. This is not so with 1443 B.C. or 1447 B.C.

I had a great discussion with Tim McMaster in church today on the Sabbath, and he shared with me some of his interesting findings about identifying the 430 year and 400 year periods referred to in the Bible. Truly, the Bible is an intriguing puzzle, here a little, there a little (Isaiah 28:10).

It appears that to solve it all, we need either the date of the Exodus (which of the three possible ones?) or the date of Solomon’s fourth year for sure, which would give the date of the Exodus. With either of these two milestones, we could pinpoint the 430 and 400 year periods.

Soon I’m hoping to receive a helpful critique from three qualified reviewers, and more details from Tim, and then I will share results with you.